Sex Wars
Let me tell you a little story: a guy opens a gate for a girl he has been necking with... she slaps him hard. This guy doesn't know why he has been slapped, so he punches her back and then asks "what the hell is wrong with you?” The girl then explains that holding the gate was machismo, but it was ok, the punch had 'redeemed' him, so they could still go out the gate and look for a quite place in the woods. And so we did. I was 17 then, I still laugh every time I think of it.
This is one of the reasons I do not even try and understand radical feminists. They do not seem to make any sense to me.
Some things you just get from the upbringing you have had.
My parents thought me to be courteous towards women, to be respectful of older people and a lot of other nice things that I sometimes seem to forget. It is true that much of that can be ignored some of the time.
Obviously I can be as rude as the next guy, and sometimes I actually am worst. Nevertheless, most of the time that background is there, forcing me to hold a door, raise from a chair or any such thing without even thinking. Although very often, and with an increasing frequency, people see it as a way to get something, as something done with an aim
The ones that usually throw the first rock are exactly the radical feminists.
That puzzles me: I can understand they are right when they say I treat women in a different way, but do they actually have anything to complain? Oh well, guess I don't really care anymore.
This is one of the reasons I do not even try and understand radical feminists. They do not seem to make any sense to me.
Some things you just get from the upbringing you have had.
My parents thought me to be courteous towards women, to be respectful of older people and a lot of other nice things that I sometimes seem to forget. It is true that much of that can be ignored some of the time.
Obviously I can be as rude as the next guy, and sometimes I actually am worst. Nevertheless, most of the time that background is there, forcing me to hold a door, raise from a chair or any such thing without even thinking. Although very often, and with an increasing frequency, people see it as a way to get something, as something done with an aim
The ones that usually throw the first rock are exactly the radical feminists.
That puzzles me: I can understand they are right when they say I treat women in a different way, but do they actually have anything to complain? Oh well, guess I don't really care anymore.
posted by DCveR at 7:32 PM
11 Comments:
You can never be too polite too women. 95% of them will not take offense and like it very well.
That is my usual policy, it takes quite a lot for me not to be polite to a woman.
I actually consider myself a feminist and *adore* having my door opened for me, although, I never expect it. I just automatically do things myself, always have. Either way, I'm not complaining...
I concur. As a feminist, not necessarily of the radical variety, I would never ever object to a guy opening a door for me. Courtesy of any kind is always welcome.
I believe in women's rights to vote, to equal pay, and all the things feminists fought for.
And I believe it's a woman's right to have a man hold the door open for her, and be respectful, and to kill the roaches, put out the garbage, and chase the mice for her.
Those are not feminists, are masochists.
A woman who jumps on to the top of a table yelling to her husband, 'Look, look, a roach, get it, get it' is a masochist?
Haha, you could be right, especially if the man himself is terrified of the roach.
I did torment my poor father...make him wake from his dreams to get rid of some insect that had come into my room.
I say, thank God for men!
That bit also puzzles me, why are women afraid of insects?
That masochism thing may be true, though...otherwise why would someone complain about getting some extra courtesy?
Insects bite!!!
Not me, I don't complain about courtesy from men...I actually think it's our right as women, we deserve courtesy. But jokes aside, I think all human beings should strive to be courteous to each other.
I would have to go ahead and say I'm a radical feminist. But I'm not the variety that insists everyone listen to me and believe me. I don't jam my opinion down your throat. I am very gentle about pushing my opinion/views.
I am also a vegetarian but will not make someone feel bad for eating meat. I will dine with meat eaters and feel comfortable about it. I might not necessarily agree with it but I don't force my opinion on most. The only time I have to put my forceful opinion out there is when someone is being very racist or hurting children (or anybody for that matter)...or they cut me in line. Other than that, I'm a feminist. If you're not that's okay. eventually you'll see the light!
impossible jane, I don't know if I'm a feminist or not, but I do believe in the rights of women in work, relationships, legal matters, in every aspect of our life.
I believe in the rights of children too.
Being from a more conservative society I would not say I'm radical.
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